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PostSubject: A New Team, Debut For 100 Subscriber Special!   Sun Mar 07, 2010 12:42 pm

This is a strategy with the help of SabienLance and Darkiway came up to use a team of pokemon that require trades to evolve but the stage before the evolutions
Here is it so far, I need help with Ev Spreads, Moves, Natures, Strategies, and Nicknames and anything else, like if you think a different Pokemon would fit better.

Here is the team:
Kadabra
Electabuzz
Seadra
Poliwhirl
Graveler
Scyther
Help please! Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: A New Team, Debut For 100 Subscriber Special!   Sun Mar 07, 2010 2:09 pm

Okay Yoda, since I do not have information and movesets, EV guide, etc with me now I will edit this as I go.

Kadabra
Item Petaya Berry
nature-Timid
Ev 252 Sp Attk 252 Speed 6 Hp
Psychic
Shadow Ball
Focus Blast
Substitute

Saw this used and worked surprisingly well. Sub to avoid all those sucker punches and sweep Petaya Berry for the extra power.


Electabuzz
item life orb
nature Hasty
252 speed rest in sp attk and attk
Thunderbolt
Ice Punch
Cross Chop
Fire Punch


Seadra
Item Life Orb
nature Modest
Agility
Surf/Muddy Water
Ice Beam
Dragon Pulse



Poliwhirl
Item Salac Berry
Nature Jolly
Waterfall
Hypnosis
Substitute
Focus Punch

Graveler
Nature Impish
Item Cutsap Berry
252 Attk rest in hp and def
stone edge
endure
explosion
stealth rock


Scyther
Nature-Jolly
Item
252 speed 252 attk 6 Hp
Swords Dance
Bug Bite
Aerial Ace
Quick Attack


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PostSubject: Re: A New Team, Debut For 100 Subscriber Special!   Sun Mar 07, 2010 2:27 pm

did you know poliwhirl has better speed than both its evolutions? its got 90-- both of its evolutions have 70. also, its better attacking stat is its attack at 65. Nothing amazing, but this fella can learn some really cool moves: here's what I'd do. Give it a jolly nature and max its speed and attack. Now give it hypnosis belly drum focus punch and waterfall. Strongest set I could think of for singles. For doubles, replace focus punch with body slam and try to get that para hax. For items, I honestly dont know.

ps: if in doubles, you could mix it with seadra and a basic water absorb/surf strat.
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PostSubject: Re: A New Team, Debut For 100 Subscriber Special!   Sun Mar 07, 2010 2:46 pm

Thanks guys, you guys both really helped!
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PostSubject: Re: A New Team, Debut For 100 Subscriber Special!   Sun Mar 07, 2010 9:40 pm

Kadabra @ Life Orb
Ability: Synchronize
EVs: 40 HP / 252 Sp Atk / 216 Spd
Timid Nature
-Psychic
-Signal Beam
-Shadow Ball
-Energy Ball / Hidden Power Fire


Calling Kadabra a great special sweeper is a gross understatement. With Life Orb and enough Speed to outpace everything in the game except Sneasel and Scarfed , Kadabra proves to be the best special sweeper in NFE. Its STAB Psychic is enough to OHKO nearly any foe that doesn't resist it, while Signal Beam, Shadow Ball and the chosen Hidden Power slam the entire OU tier with heavy damage. When used correctly, this set can sweep entire teams, although one must be aware of priority attacks, as Kadabra's extremely explotable Defense and HP are its downfall. Hidden Power Fire is an option in the last slot to hit Bronzor for harder damage, as it's a susceptible switch-in for Psychic.


Electabuzz @ Lum Berry
Ability: Static
EVs: 160 Atk/252 Spd/98 SAtk
Hasty nature (+Spd, -Def)
- Cross Chop
- Fire Punch
- Ice Punch
- Thunderbolt


This set is capable of learning a wide variety of attacks that can hit many with supereffective damage. Having a special attack in the set allows it to do ok against physical walls. I use Lum Berry instead of Focus Sash because if I get special conditioned, the use of this rapidly drops. It also maxes out a 339 Speed, which is higher than most other nonscarfed in the tier. The ability Static is also useful since Paralysis can let me go first if I need to use a slower .

Seadra @ Life Orb
Ability - Either will do, I prefer Poison Point.
EVs: 252 Atk / 232 Spd / 24 Def
Jolly Nature
-Dragon Dance
-Waterfall
-Return
-Outrage


Although this focuses on Seadra's only average Attack power, Life Orb boosts coupled with an Attack boost for the most part makes up for it. Seadra is a notable Dragon Dance-user for its ability to, with this set, outspeed even ScarfBite, leaving other Scarf-users such as Mankey, Staravia and even max Speed Sneasel too slow to hit Seadra before it hits with a boosted Life Orb'ed attack. Waterfall is Seadra's main STAB attack, while Return gives Seadra nearly perfect coverage alongside Waterfall. For times where Seadra cannot manage a Dragon Dance, a Life Orb-boosted Outrage with its still respectable Speed stat can still provide a decent sweep, which makes this set more notable, since it doesn't desperately need a Dragon Dance boost before it can do any considerable damage.

Poliwhirl @ Life Orb
Ability - Water Absorb
EVs: 252 Atk/252 Spd/6 HP
Adamant Nature
-Waterfall
-Belly Drum
-Ice Punch / Return
-Hypnosis


A common NFE sweeper? This thing owns when it sets up. It's puny NFE strength is hightened and kills the likes of any slow teams or walls that just want to stall you out all day. Poliwhirl is awesome and is an NFE with many capabilities.


Graveler @ Leftovers
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: 192 HP / 96 Atk / 220 Sp Def
Impish Nature
-Stealth Rock
-Earthquake
-Stone Edge
-Explosion


Graveler makes a good lead, with passable defenses to allow the initial Stealth Rock setup, and Explosion to ruin your opponent's first lead in many cases. Focus Punch is also an option due to the fact that many people use attacks like Taunt or their own Stealth Rock the first turn in battle, but this means you will run into problems with Drifloon, Gastly and Haunter if your opponent decides to switch to one of these, all of which can be dealt with with Stone Edge.
96 Attack EVs guarantee that you'll put a big dent in anything that doesn't resist Explosion, while guaranteeing a OHKO with Stone Edge on a standard Lead Golbat. The rest of the EVs are designed to maximize Graveler's defenses to aid in Stealth Rock setup, and to allow it to attack more often after it is used.


Scyther @ Life Orb
Ability: Technician
252 Atk/252 Spd/4 Def
Jolly Nature
-Swords Dance
-Aerial Ace
-X-Scissor
-Brick Break

Scyther has naturally high Attack and Speed, and Swords Dance and Life Orb complement that to make Scyther one of the most vicious physical sweeper.
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PostSubject: Re: A New Team, Debut For 100 Subscriber Special!   Mon Mar 08, 2010 1:21 am

I have my own idea for graveler: make it into a bulky attacker, with earthquake, stone edge and explosion. Give that thing a custap berry and add endure to the mix.

Nature: ups def, drops speed
ability: sturdy
evs: max your attack and mix hp and def about 50-50
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PostSubject: Re: A New Team, Debut For 100 Subscriber Special!   Mon Mar 08, 2010 2:41 am

I like everything, but I was thinking of more of a special Seadra, thanks everyone, I will post what I am going to do so far later
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PostSubject: Re: A New Team, Debut For 100 Subscriber Special!   Mon Mar 08, 2010 3:11 am

Special Seadra? ;D

Seadra @ Choice specs
Ability: Sniper
EVs: 252 Sp Atk / 252 Spd / 6 Def
Timid Nature
-Surf / Muddy Water
-Ice Beam
-Signal Beam
-Hidden Power Grass


Sweeping Graveler:
Graveler @ Leftovers
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: 252 Atk / 60 Def / 196 Spd
Jolly Nature
-Rock Polish
-Rock Slide / Stone Edge
-Earthquake
-Fire Punch
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PostSubject: Re: A New Team, Debut For 100 Subscriber Special!   Mon Mar 08, 2010 4:35 am

Here is what I have so far, critique everything please, tell me what you like and don't like:
Help with nicknames too!

Pokémon: Kadabra
Nickname: Houdini
Ability: Synchronize
Item: Focus Sash
Ev Spread: 40 HP, 252 Special Attack, 216 Speed
Moves: Psychic, Signal Beam, Shadow Ball, Energy Ball
Nature: Timid

Pokémon: Electabuzz
Nickname: Buzz
Ability: Static
Item: Lum Berry
Ev Spread: 160 Attack, 98 Special Attack, 252 Speed
Moves: Cross Chop, Fire Punch, Ice Punch, Thunderbolt
Nature: Hasty

Pokémon: Poliwhirl
Nickname: Poli
Ability: Water Absorb
Item: Life Orb
Ev Spread: 6 HP, 252 Attack, 252 Speed
Moves: Hypnosis, Belly Drum, Ice Punch, Waterfall
Nature: Adamant

Pokémon: Seadra
Nickname: Rip Tide
Ability: Poison Point
Item: Wise Glasses
Ev Spread: 6 Defense, 252 Special Attack, 252 Speed
Moves: Surf, Dragon Pulse, Ice Beam, Signal Beam
Nature: Timid

Pokémon: Graveler
Nickname: Mud Slide
Ability: Sturdy
Item: Custap Berry
Ev Spread: 130 HP, 252 Attack, 128 Defense
Moves: Earthquake, Explosion, Rock Slide, Endure
Nature: Relaxed


Pokémon: Scyther
Nickname: Scythe
Ability: Technician
Item: Life Orb
Ev Spread: 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 4 Defense
Moves: Swords Dance, Aerial Ace, Bug Bite, Brick Break
Nature: Jolly
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PostSubject: Re: A New Team, Debut For 100 Subscriber Special!   Mon Mar 08, 2010 4:54 am

dont you think thats a little to much life orbs?
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PostSubject: Re: A New Team, Debut For 100 Subscriber Special!   Mon Mar 08, 2010 4:57 am

Who ose or me?
I used 2 I didn't want to use to many
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PostSubject: Re: A New Team, Debut For 100 Subscriber Special!   Mon Mar 08, 2010 5:12 am

Here is my newest one:

Pokémon: Kadabra
Nickname: Houdini
Ability: Synchronize
Item: Petaya Berry
Ev Spread: 40 HP, 252 Special Attack, 216 Speed
Moves: Psychic, Focus Blast, Shadow Ball, Substitute
Nature: Timid

Pokémon: Electabuzz
Nickname: Buzz
Ability: Static
Item: Lum Berry
Ev Spread: 160 Attack, 98 Special Attack, 252 Speed
Moves: Cross Chop, Fire Punch, Ice Punch, Thunderbolt
Nature: Hasty

Pokémon: Poliwhirl
Nickname: Poli
Ability: Water Absorb
Item: Muscle Band
Ev Spread: 6 HP, 252 Attack, 252 Speed
Moves: Hypnosis, Belly Drum, Ice Punch, Waterfall
Nature: Adamant

Pokémon: Seadra
Nickname: Rip Tide
Ability: Poison Point
Item: Life Orb
Ev Spread: 6 Defense, 252 Special Attack, 252 Speed
Moves: Surf, Dragon Pulse, Ice Beam, Signal Beam
Nature: Timid

Pokémon: Graveler
Nickname: Mud Slide
Ability: Sturdy
Item: Custap Berry
Ev Spread: 130 HP, 252 Attack, 128 Defense
Moves: Earthquake, Explosion, Rock Slide, Endure
Nature: Relaxed


Pokémon: Scyther
Nickname: Scythe
Ability: Technician
Item: Life Orb
Ev Spread: 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 4 Defense
Moves: Swords Dance, Aerial Ace, Bug Bite, Quick Attack
Nature: Jolly

Thanks Sabien I looked at some of your stuff and I am definetly going to use it
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PostSubject: Re: A New Team, Debut For 100 Subscriber Special!   Mon Mar 08, 2010 10:43 am

Not a problem buddy. Anything I can do to help. Team looks good.
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PostSubject: Re: A New Team, Debut For 100 Subscriber Special!   Mon Mar 08, 2010 12:23 pm

Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: A New Team, Debut For 100 Subscriber Special!   Mon Mar 08, 2010 12:42 pm

What about an item for scyther?
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PostSubject: Re: A New Team, Debut For 100 Subscriber Special!   Tue Mar 09, 2010 12:17 am

Here is the newest one:

Pokémon: Kadabra
Nickname: Houdini
Ability: Synchronize
Item: Petaya Berry
Ev Spread: 40 HP, 252 Special Attack, 216 Speed
Moves: Psychic, Focus Blast, Shadow Ball, Substitute
Nature: Timid

Pokémon: Electabuzz
Nickname: Buzz
Ability: Static
Item: Life Orb
Ev Spread: 160 Attack, 98 Special Attack, 252 Speed
Moves: Cross Chop, Fire Punch, Ice Punch, Thunderbolt
Nature: Hasty

Pokémon: Poliwhirl
Nickname: Poli
Ability: Water Absorb
Item: Muscle Band
Ev Spread: 6 HP, 252 Attack, 252 Speed
Moves: Hypnosis, Belly Drum, Ice Punch, Waterfall
Nature: Adamant

Pokémon: Seadra
Nickname: Rip Tide
Ability: Poison Point
Item: Wise Glasses
Ev Spread: 6 Defense, 252 Special Attack, 252 Speed
Moves: Surf, Dragon Pulse, Ice Beam, Signal Beam
Nature: Timid

Pokémon: Graveler
Nickname: Mud Slide
Ability: Sturdy
Item: Custap Berry
Ev Spread: 130 HP, 252 Attack, 128 Defense
Moves: Earthquake, Explosion, Rock Slide, Endure
Nature: Relaxed


Pokémon: Scyther
Nickname: Scythe
Ability: Technician
Item: Focus Sash
Ev Spread: 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 6 Defense
Moves: Swords Dance, Aerial Ace, Bug Bite, Quick Attack
Nature: Jolly
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PostSubject: Re: A New Team, Debut For 100 Subscriber Special!   Wed Mar 10, 2010 3:51 am

I like the way the team is turning out Yoda. Great Team.
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PostSubject: Re: A New Team, Debut For 100 Subscriber Special!   Wed Mar 10, 2010 6:32 am

Thanks!
It was from help from people here that I could do this
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PostSubject: Re: A New Team, Debut For 100 Subscriber Special!   Tue Sep 14, 2010 5:33 am

I have my own idea for graveler: make it into a bulky attacker, with earthquake, stone edge and explosion. Give that thing a custap berry and add endure to the mix.
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